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Anyone else wanting frisco to remove flock cameras?

Anyone else wanting frisco to remove flock cameras?
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3DPrintEverythi  New Member
~ 2 weeks, 5 days ago    
Anyone else wanting frisco to remove flock cameras?
I for one do not want these type of systems where i live and am very disappointed in the city counsel for taking bribes from flock to get these in when the citizens do not want them.
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Tamara Online Top Forum Contributor4.1 yrs App
~ 2 weeks, 5 days ago    
@3DPrintEverythi: Personally I haven't noticed them.
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xAyeikax 3.8 yrs
~ 2 weeks, 4 days ago    
I don't mind them. I always live as if the government is already watching everything I do online. I don't have anything to hide so I don't mind the cameras. If everyone follows traffic laws then they should be fine.
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xAyeikax 3.8 yrs
~ 2 weeks, 4 days ago    
I always wondered do people don't want them truly because of privacy or because they don't want traffic tickets lol
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ChrisR Top Forum Contributor3.8 yrs
~ 2 weeks, 4 days ago    
@3DPrintEverythi : I'm not bothered by them - yet. I think the technology can help with crime - as long as they are used properly. Goes back to the question of "Who will watch the watchers?"
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jonandreve 2 yrs
~ 2 weeks, 4 days ago    
What are you doing in your car that you are so concerned about your privacy? If the cameras are used following proper guidelines and criminal acts or persons are recorded the public safety wins.
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RH59  New Member
~ 2 weeks, 4 days ago    
The real question here is will they be used for what they were intended for. While I and most have nothing to hide we've already seen how they have been used illegally. So the answer is- both views are right.
The real question is:
Will we ever get comfortable with those cameras being out there? I don't think so.
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FriscoRocks  New Member
~ 2 weeks, 4 days ago    
I love flock cameras for safety concerns. Criminals have been caught due to the cameras. If a child is lost it can aid in recovery. I don't buy the whole privacy concerns- the cameras are not in our homes.
Some of the same people who claim privacy concerns have their own cameras pointed at the streets in front of their houses and spend time on the internet with social media, chat rooms and have smart devices in their homes.
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Loriw 4 yrs
~ 2 weeks, 4 days ago    
@3DPrintEverythi :
I had a car stolen and they helped track and find it
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Jjj Top Forum Contributor5 yrs
~ 2 weeks, 4 days ago    
@3DPrintEverythi :
Personally, I think they can be a great tool for law enforcement. But I do think it gets sketchy for certain searches, since it doesn't require a search warrant. Should law enforcement be able to trace your every (car) move without a warrant and without independent oversight? It does seem overly invasive of privacy.
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3DPrint  New Member
~ 2 weeks, 4 days ago    
@3DPrintEverythi :
The issue is they are proven to be missused and they are lying about what they are used for.
You can tell me your only going to use your gun for hunting until its pointed a human and trigger pulled.
How many accounts of police abusing flock to stalk women, to stalk people they dont like. Not to mention many false positives of people gettting arrested and proven guilty before innocent due to AI messing up.
 
Its all fine for us who live legally until the gov doesnt like your views and tools like this at every corner can give a profile on you better than anyone or anything.
 
The issue is what they say they are getting and using the info for is a provable lie and they are tracking them.
 
If they are for vehicles and license plates why are they on walking trails?
That should tell you everything.
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funacct Top Forum Contributor4.1 yrs App
~ 2 weeks, 4 days ago    
@3DPrintEverythi: having seen how they help solve crimes I'm all for them.
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funacct Top Forum Contributor4.1 yrs App
~ 2 weeks, 4 days ago    
@3DPrint: I can understand your concern of how it can be abused and missused but that is with anything. In this case I believe the pros outway the cons.
 
@Jjj: I can see your point of being able to use the cameras without a warrant. The way I look at it, the cameras are in a public place not in a house or car. It is just another set of eyes helping searching in the streets.
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FriscoRocks  New Member
~ 2 weeks, 4 days ago    
@3DPrint :
They are on walking trails to protect the women and children on the trails. I love that they are there.
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Jjj Top Forum Contributor5 yrs
~ 2 weeks, 4 days ago    
I can see your point of being able to use the cameras without a warrant. The way I look at it, the cameras are in a public place not in a house or car. It is just another set of eyes helping searching in the streets. #msg1957432
 
@funacct : I recntly read a really interesting article…I can't find it at the moment,…but it was how current laws are just not really well aligned with the modern possibility of perfect enforcement…with high tech perfect surveillance and perfect enforcement, once reasonable laws can now feel overly oppressive to citizenry and may be way harsher than lawmakers intended when they were crafted years ago. I'll have to see if I can find it…it was thought provoking from a theoretical/philosophical perspective.
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mrand1050  New Member App
~ 2 weeks, 2 days ago    
There needs to be transparency on who will get to view the data and with what safeguards.
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